Life can be a Pain

[Owlunar]

Yes @utopia

I have been cleared by the Health Department to have injections for my back pain if it is bad enough - after a couple of days feeling stiff with my tight and tangle facets joints dragging against each other everytime I reach - it's amazing how different I feel tonight

When you were talking around your son's allergies it reminded me about my son's - severe skin reactions are really nasty

My son was allergic to the Pertussis Anti-Toxin - the day after his first injection I took his wet nappy off first thing and it was really bad - and I took him straight to the doctor and I was told he could not complete his whooping-cough shots. That meant that he was vulnerable to whooping-cough and I had to go back to my doctor in a different suburb when he was little and get a letter so he could attend kindergarten - I have mostly held the opinion that vaccination is essential for people who can endure it - I have been vaccinated against whooping-cough in my old age - I would not enjoy having that childhood disease and I never knew until I had great-grand-children that I could catch it from any child who was not covered - 

I do not hang about looking for things I am not vaccinated against - I have even been vaccinated against shingles - I didn't know about that until my doctor told me - and pneumonia and I will be having the pneumococcle shot as soon as it has been a reasonable time since my flu shot

Some of these I have had to pay for - others are free - and I have this strong interested in not getting sick and enough fo this subject

Back to my son's allergies - he was allergic to oranges and orange juice - I never gave them to him but he went to day care two days a week and people would give these to him and he was a bed wetter - it didn't matter how early I was up he would have recently wet the bed and in a short time he was crying with a burning rash where his urine has touched - 

It's amazing that an adopted child should inherit all sorts of allegies from his adoptive mother - not the same ones but allergy prone yes - and red food - even if I peeled a red apple it set him off into a rage - I moved him from one day care situation to another until he went to kinder and there was two of them until he went to school and people stopped handing out fruit 

Those were tough days - and I needed him to be in day care - I think now there would be restrictions about the workers giving a kid fruit he was allergic to - back then no - 

My daughter hated forumula - she would suck at the bottle and often throw up - and she was slow at it - and she could manage the breast either - I was engorged and it was too hard for her in her premature state - long story short - I realised what was wrong when she told me she could handle her grand-children having fomula - it has a smell she couldn't bear and we add sugar to it was well and she doesn't eat sweet food - she started to thrive when she was having a bottle of milk straight from the carton - 

wow - as mothers we do have it differently - no wonder things can be so tough at times and back in my day I wasn't thinking of returning to work - women must have it hard when they work full time and have one or more young children at home

There is so much expected from young mothers these days and I can't see an alternative - some women have to work and others want there career and I don't blame them - I went back to my career when the kids were at school - but for most women now I think they are caught between society and their children and the larger load of work at home

So many issues

Dec

What a rant!

Maybe I can find my soap-box and push it under the chair

[utopia]

Thanks you @Owlunar. My best friend makes sure not to wear any perfume when she visits me or i visit her. Not even clothes she has worn previously with perfume. She's one of a kind.
We've been having some good conversations on the forum lately. It's been good. Helps to work my brain.
I still want people to wash. Maybe just use a scent free soap. A room full if BO bodies would be a nightmare. Unless you too stank. Lol.
well night night from me.
Hope you have a restful sleep tonight.

[Owlunar]

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@Appleblossomwrote:

@Owlunar One reason I love this thread is that you are realistic.  You admit life "can be" a pain and certainly have a lot to endure but you did not go the next step and say life is a pain ... as there are many consolations if we look around. 

Funny about the supplement conversation .. @utopia @Shaz51 atm I am finishing off my Vitamin B and iron pills ... The main thing I notice are yellow to dark brown wee!  I take a little bit each year as my levels are generally low ... but managed.

Hello @Wanderer @jay2

So is the colour of the pill more important or the consequences .... 

I am sorry you had that experience with psychologist.

However I am glad you posted about it, have a solicitor and are going to stand your ground.

I have been kicked when down or have opened myself up ...so many times now I almost dont take it personally.  That is I do experience it in my viscera but am learning to bat it back to the perpetrator.  My problem is that i am slow to do this as probably in the stunned bunny state for a long time.

It is important for many people ( the general community and any carers or those with Lived Experience effected by mental health issues and the systems) that we raise some of the things that 

so called mental health professionals do

that are harmful 

It helps give others perspective and maybe one day the courage to assert their needs and rights.

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Hi @Appleblossom

You are right - life can be a pain but I certainly don't see it as a pain - that is a fine distintion and an important one

And I try to be realistic - as yes pass this sorting out in my mind is better managed - increasing years do have a positive side - which is a good thing

The psychologist - the proof in the pudding is how little I care - I do not want to poke around in my childhood anymore - I can't change anything and it doesn't matter about my mother's abuse or being told I did strange things my family didn't understand - I didn't need their permission to do what I did - it's over and yes - it will be great when you reach this stage in your life too - you have something positive to work toward

And this therapist would be stirring me up and I needed to tell her to stop so I could settle down before I left -- to breathe for a bit - I have had a lot of therapy through the years - I was in psycho-analyis for years - one hour three times a week for years on Medicare - I still wonder what that was about

So I learned to be in control of the end of sessions - just saying "Time's Up" and sending us out into the world is a dismissal - really hard - 

If I go ahead with another therapist I will be edgy - have barriers set up in my own mind - I can say that my childhood is a no-fly zone unless I say otherwise - it's not as if I have never looked at it - and it's rather like picking a sore and making it worse - that's not a habit that I need at this stage of my life

Also - her saying I was seriously depressed was a baddie - I know people here are depressed and I might have a bad patch now and again but no-way am I suffering like some here - I can sit with myself without discomfort - or if I am - I can write it out, play it out on the piano, sing it out - and on good days walk it out - I know depression is a serious condition and the person often cannot help themselves and I have been there in the past - 

That's enough for now

Dec

[utopia]

@Owlunar oranges and orange juice are a very common food allergy. But yes, back in the day, people ignored you when you said not to give your child a particular food.
My brother was allergic to cows milk when he was a baby. So my mum had to source goat milk for him. It's not like now, where you can get goats milk at any supermarket. Back then it was hard to find.
But luckily the end if the 60's & early 70's - there was a back to basic living movement. So many people in the dandenong ranges where we lived, had goats. A few would supply my mum with fresh goats milk.
Being able to afford to see an allergy specialist is out of the question for us now.
The consult with the allergy doctor has a medicare rebate. 15 years ago I would pay $140 & get $65 back from medicare. I didn't mind that. But when I'd go to see my specialist, I would have to spend hours being 'tested' by the nurses. $350 each 'testing' session and no medicare rebate.
.I would be in the room with all the other patients and the nurse would put a drop of liquid under my tongue. After 15 minutes she would ask how I feel. Any headache, blocked nose, itches. If no reaction - she would increase the dose of the drop until I'd tried it 3 times without a reaction. Then she'd move onto the next drop (eg; polyester, mould, chlorine).
If I had a reaction, the nurse would use different drops to try to stop the reaction. For everything I reacted to, we were never able to find a drop to cure the reaction. Some people do find cures from the drops..I guess it's a little similar to homeopathy.
Wonder how much he charges now. Very expensive. But he is the best allergy specialist in Australia. And it was worth it to work out how to prevent my son getting excema.
Poor baby. I'd take his nappy off and excema would be on his groin area. The slightest breeze would break the skin and cause it to bleed. Luckily he was so young and doesn't remember any of it.
An adopted child with allergies judt like his adopted mother. I'm not surprised.
Most of the dogs I have adopted ended up having allergies. So has my mums dogs. I wonder if the dogs know we will understand. Please don't be offended tjat I'm mentioning dogs. I just mean if you have allergies, you willalways meet others with allergies too. I tthink we attract them. Lol.
Wonder what tomorrow's topic will be.
I look forward to finding out

[Owlunar]

I love that @utopia

Wondering what tomorrow's topic would be

I think the forum is a great place for a convo - everyone can say whatever they choose to and we can read it in detail in our own time and reply as necessary and everyone is reading and adding their opinions in and I can go out for hours and come back and have dinner and get right back into it 

So what is going to happen tomorrow? It's a good thing to wake up with the feeling something different will happen

Your allergist sounds thorough - I saw one back in the last millenium - maybe 20 years ago - and my asthma was bad - and I had several pin-marks on my arm with different allergins place in drops over each one and I had to sit and wait for ever - about an hour I think - and when I went back in the allergist was amazed - I only showed a slight reaction to dust mites and nothing else - he took a blood test and it came back sky-high positive for dust-mites - 

A housewife's dream - I have not used a vacuum cleaner for a long time because I was getting asthma if I was around the vacuum - how about that - the good side of an allergy

My son's nappy area was really bad also - taking his nappy off meant (a bit to graphic perhaps) similar reactions to your son - breathing near him seemed to make it worse - like most mothers I know it is easy to leave a little girl in the bassinet with a bare bottom but little boys have a little fountain happening now and again and marvellous how are that can spread - but I left his nappy off often and washed the floor later - 

And thinking about pee and how it can smell - if I use as much vegemite as much as I like I can smell it in my pee too. Vit A and vit D are not water-soluable as vit B and C are - so we can have our vegemite sammidges if we are okay about the salt - 

Goats' milk - I never had to use that but when my sister was being breast fed my grandmother would give me the scalded billy when I got home from school and had to take it to the dairy and the man would milk one of the cows straight into the billy - and my mother drank the milk - not the baby

I tried it - to me it tasted hairy - warm and hairy - now how can something taste hairy? - I never wanted to drink raw milk

Any ideas about what we can discuss tomorrow? We have covered nearly everything today

Dec

[Appleblossom]

Only an hour EST to wait to find what tomorrow will bring

but that depends on which time zone you are in ... 

Yes lovely chatting ladies. I am going to bed soon. 

Ah lovely to be able to lie flat after the overnighter.

[Appleblossom]

Found your post about allergies very interesting @utopia 

We never could have afforded all that in either family of origin or creation. Lucky my kids were not allergic or I made enough whole and healthy decisions as a parent, or both.

Maybe another way @Owlunar  to look at it is that you were

An adoptive mother with sensitivities with a child with sensitivities.

Found a new favourite pic you both may appreciate .. 

[Former-Member]

@Owlunar, thanks for tagging me, only realpy following posts i'm tagged in re low energy, concentration
.& busy... blarr blarr excuses lol Yes, the srive was ok, saw big bro (whose in a bas way with the MS (can't walk now) and dad saw him for his b'day. Its amazing Greg is special to dad. And they got to see hos level of decline when he poured his sweetener sachet into his birthday card instead of his coffee 😞 I got lost and neally had an accident and my sis, only 10min away did not come so it was a challenge but worth it i guess and lovely weather. Too much for dad i think, 3+hrs travel so we wont do that too often. Only Bro-1 & Bro-4 & I came to the meals for dads B"day.

Guess what, i finally took this troublesom stray cat of mums to the pound Friday but Last night he reappeared at the dront door with a color, bell & dog tag, meowing at me. Thought i was having a guilt delusion. Had to feed it. What to do? How dod it find its way back?

Hope you & your cat are ok & daughter on the improve. Just get through the einter mode now - i'm slowing down 🙂

[Owlunar]

HI @Former-Member

No need to worry about the cat - I don't know how they find their way back either but they do this often - I have had a couple of cats do it

So the idea is to take the cat back to the pound and it's not your problem if it has a collar and tag - he must be living somewhere close and it might be a nuisance but the new owners have to pay the fine for letting it out - not you and no need to feel guilty either - you have enough on your plate without a nomadic cat coming back all the time but the new owners will learn to keep it in

My daughter went to work to today but couldn't last the day - so she is going to talk with her boss tomorrow about the best thing for her health and the company - it would have been easier to have a real conversation rather than these long texts but I know she doesn't want to talk and why - she knows I'm right and still wants to feel as if she makes her own decisions. It would be better for her to have a couple of weeks off without the need to worry about going to work and just recover - if her finances run short I can pick that up for her but she says it won't come to that.

Aw - I wrote to my rellies - did it on the computer - but I didn't get to the shops today - I had to wait for the doctor and it was too late on my way home - I feel as if I need to care for myself more - I had bacon, eggs and tomatoes for dinner and I forgot and thought I hadn't eaten anything

I'm glad two of your brothers came to your Dad's birthday meal and b^gger the others - sorry about your nearly having an accident - probably better without her

My screen is going wonky and it's late - I think it's time I went to bed - it has just turned into tomorrow while I have been writing and the footy show is on - this is annoying background noise - time for my shower and I hope to get out earlier tomorrow

Great seeing you Lapses - always thinking of you - 

Dec

[Former-Member]

Great chatting with you too @Owlunar, you seem more relaxed today 👍 ❤❤❤