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Hi @utopia

Your expectations of your son are reasonable - but - oh darn it - there is always a but in the sentence somewhere

I guess we can hope that our kids will do what is required of them - what is actually their part of the deal - school work - but we can't expect it

Um - why not? To answer my own question - if we expect something we will have our expectations dashed - if we hope we can hope for ever and it will be okay - just hoping - that's not a bad thing

But kids will waste time - which is harder work than anything - while you work your butt off to maintain his lifestyle - oh wow

Yes - how wonderful it would be to have someone care for us - that was part of our deal with the kids' dad - who's kids they were and whoever their dad was - my ex-h was chronically lazy and he is still the same way from what I heard

We can only care for ourselves Utopia - and if that is sending him to your Mum for a while works for you - maybe not him - you are giving yourself a break

I care Utopia - and I understand

Dec