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19 Aug 2021 11:12 AM
19 Aug 2021 11:12 AM
well you're up that's the main thing @LostAngel not long up here either. nice to see you
19 Aug 2021 11:29 AM
19 Aug 2021 11:29 AM
Good on you. Its hard being a lizard @MDT! You are so funny ha ha
19 Aug 2021 12:08 PM
19 Aug 2021 12:08 PM
19 Aug 2021 01:30 PM
19 Aug 2021 01:30 PM
@MDT nothing that a sense of humour can't fix! Good for a laugh!
19 Aug 2021 04:07 PM
19 Aug 2021 04:07 PM
Hey @MDT @Former-Member
Hope we are not going to get overrun by the more bizarre lizard people lurking about on the net!
Ach dont worry Apple .... I love tortoises and a @Former-Member has to be good!
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210818-the-hand-gestures-that-last-longer-than-spoken-languages
Hallo All ... hope ya have a good arvo ....
19 Aug 2021 06:14 PM
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20 Aug 2021 12:44 PM
20 Aug 2021 12:44 PM
I was chatting with my sis in Seattle about the vax, and I'll copy/paste some of her comments, you may find it interesting. I've removed the names, but left the rest intact.
Yes, we had Covid shots back in March/April. We had the Pfizer. I believe the Moderna is just as effective.
I did not want the AstraZeneca for several reasons:
1. It requires three shots, not two. (Minor point, perhaps.)
2. It has a MUCH higher incidence of blood clots that the other two. (Important point.)
3. This is the most important, a moral reason. The original tissue used was fetal tissue many years ago, and the current tissue is made up of ‘daughter’ cells grown in the lab. I know it is many, many generations removed from the original, but the idea of a baby dying so that I might benefit is abhorrent to me. I am fanatically pro-life.
There are some other vaccines out there (Johnson & Johnson, Jansen) and I think (not positive) that they both use the AstraZeneka.
Both our girls are vaccinated. L around April, and S and M in July. All had the Pfizer.
I have several thoughts on being vaccinated:
1. We get flu shots every year. We don’t have more than a sore arm as side effects.
2. The flu shot for each year uses an algorithm from the previous year’s vaccine (assessing how effective it was, rate of flu spread, side effects etc), and on that basis, predict what the next season’s flu will likely be and adapt the new vaccine accordingly. The flu virus is a corona virus too.
3. Using the above as a starting point, the current vaccine was initially developed the same way. A big problem was that the Covid 19 was much more virulent and more deadly. Perhaps the current vaccines can be improved upon, but the current vaccine was not the “start from scratch” nonsense that some opponents put forth.
4. No vaccine is perfect; all will have some adverse side effects. S was vaccinated for smallpox when she was little. She had fevers and convulsed on and off for five months. She was given a doctor’s certificate to say she should never have it again. L was also issued such a certificate, predicated upon the fact that they are full siblings and therefore there was a high likelihood of her having the same kind of reaction. D and I had repeated vaccinations against smallpox beginning in childhood and suffered no side effects. (Were they still doing vaccinations at the grade school when you were there?)
5. The vulnerable age groups remain the same as for any flu - older people with co-morbidities (diabetes, overweight etc). This year in this country more children have died from flu that from C19.
6. I believe it is a personal choice to get it or not, though I urge people to get it. I believe it is the right of certain businesses to say, You MUST get it, (for example, all branches of the medical profession). Other people think differently.
There are some things that are being said by officials that to me are utter nonsense. Our CDC (center for disease control) has changed its position on vaccines and masks as often as every two weeks, always claiming they are following the science when the science has not altered. It is very political. The truth is in there somewhere.
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