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[Owlunar]

I know only too well @Appleblossom - it's a living nightmare at times yet your son seems highly talented as was mine

Really - my son could have been a labourer had he wanted to continue what he started - tyre-fitter or Had he wanted to he could have gone to university - he would have been good at law I am sure - he was so good at putting forth a very sound argument at times

So it is heart-breaking that gifted children and teens and young adults can also be so unhappy and have conditions that leave them so far out of self-control it causes them to feel worse about themselves - I do understand

I forget which state you are in - the Juvenile Justice System has been improved and is not run by a few young thugs as the press sometimes presents - boys and girls are housed separately but they are educated until they are 17. 

As I studied Learning Theory at TAFE I know we can't force people to learn a curriculum but being exposed to information we can hope the absorb some

But what I said on TV back in the day is still true - although this society doesn't know what to do with them people are locked up and to me that only seems like half of the solution

Care heaps Apple

Dec

[Owlunar]

Hi @Sophia 

I went to bed really early - I got up to take my tablets so I thought I would look in

Yes - I am tall - 170cm - and the hydrotherpy pool I went to wasn't that deep at the deep end - I could stand on the bottom with my head right out of the water - it seemed though I couldn't and/or wouldn't comply with the therapist - which was a great pity

My mind was foggy and dazed today - strange - I have been having interactions with my telecommunications provider and started to feel harrassed with texts and emails that seem to contradict each other - I have been ignoring them since I went to bed and they have stopped - tomorrow I am going up to the Telstra shop with my phone and a print-out of all the emails - just from my mail-box - they know what's in their emails.

I guess that's their business - I felt shell-shocked - this I can do without and ringing up doesn't help - so let's deal with them in person - and I have 30 days to react

Enough!!!!! - I feel as if I am in heavy surf right now - takes any idea of swimming away entirely 

Back in the morning - I am sure I will feel better tomorrow

Dec

[Appleblossom]

Oh No. @Owlunar

I have just seen the news about David Dungay;s death and inquest.  So so distressing.

Time for me to focus on music.

[Owlunar]

I'm sorry @Appleblossom

I haven't heard that - I took my dazed and foggy brain to bed early - glad I got up though

Yes - turn the music on and let the magic of the spheres move your spirit gently - life has been tough lately

Dec

[Former-Member]

Morning Dec, i agree that locking people away from the world is counterproductive. At least they need to stretch the boundary fence. In a perfect world i would like to see Juvenile Detention compounds in the country among animals and trees and be sometjing like the army but inspiring and empowering, linking them in with quality mentors...
Thanks for painting a picture of your son's good qualities. Sounds like he would have bern wuite the character. Such a waste, a loss to the world. I oft wonder what the whole world has lost in my girl too. Once i saw a good looking senior high school lad walking the street alone and couldn't stop thinking that my girl was meant to be by his side. I felt the loss for another in that moment. I'm better at that.

[Owlunar]

Hi @Former-Member

Aw

How did this happen?

Thursday already Lapses - ah - what a week

You are right - when a young person dies it is a loss for someone who will never know - the partner they might have had - and of course - as you have already mentioned - our grandchildren - what a loss to the world it is - 

And I objected to my son being locked up but there was no option - we have to segregate people who are a danger to other people - and it's a way of keeping self-destructive people safe but it seems counter-productive to me and my heart still aches at times

Yes - my son was a colourful character - he was so good looking always and when I say he would have been wonderful as a lawyer - we called him The Little Pharisee when he was under 10 - he could argue and although some of his points were fanciful he had the right kind of mind for it - but his mind was brilliant - maybe even that of a savant in some areas - and sort of shorted out in others - but yes - he was really charismatic

We do wonder what might have been for our lost children but although it can be a passtime it is also really painful - it could go on and on - my thought is that we can do it for a set time and then turn it off - it could be too heart-breaking.

We are entitled to it though

Ah Thursday - this has been a weird week and I am glad it's almost over

Sending more hugs and did I say I love you little owl

Dec

[Owlunar]

Hi @Zoe7

I heard you - you would like to have your owm swimming pool - it does sound such a good idea but I had one for a while - it was above ground which meant it was more prone to algae but as much fun as I had for the 3 years or so we had it - I was the one who got up before sunrise to adjust the ph and filter the water and deal the algae so the kids could play in it when they were ready

It had to go once the algae meant emptying the pool often and I wasn't sorry but I did enjoy using it myself although we got it for the kids - 

But the work - never again

I do dream of living near the beach or a river sometimes - I used to be a strong swimming but after the accident when I badly damaged my shoulder I swam less and less and yet all I need is some bathers - there is often a swimming pool at the hotels I stay at when I travel

I am feeling really indifferent today and thinking I need to go to the Telstra Shop and deal with a couple of issues but I am sure the sky will not fall if I wait until I feel better - I am just so flat this week - 

You know the feeling - I don't feel so ordinary so often but today - yes today - very ordinary - I went to bed really early last night and I have a book on Downton Abbey and I read that for a long time - Companion Cat thought it was excellent being in bed so early - it was a good idea to be in bed so early - it was really cold last night

Today is too - and things do catch up with us at times - it has happened to me this week

I hope the wound in your jaw is healing and I can hear that you are battling this week - and I wish you the best you can be - sometimes we just need to put up with being indifferent or feeling really rotten but it is never fun

I hope the cold rain has ceased in Tassie today - and I am thinking of you

Dec

[Sophia1]

hello @Appleblossom

@Sophia1   I appreciate your general presence on the forums and opinions. Without knowing what is going on it is hard to give support.  It is part of the reason I dont go for the more feeling conversations. I always try and see context.

I undestand your response....I believe that it is because we all respond so differently that the forums are successful...

Some members learn to trust and open up in an honest way...a way that they cannot do in their real world...

If I can help support someone bravely writing about such raw ..tender emotions....I feel that I might be helping one person not suffer as I have..

Yes I write from my heart...my words just flow and I put them on paper..this is my passion...

Others do not write this way...you might  prefer to respond wiith a more scientific approach...like a research paper..

Your input is just as valuable as mine...yours might even be better than mine in your eyes and the eyes of some others on here...

In fact there are possibly many who do not like my style....prefer your style...brief..concis..

At the end of the day this is what life is about...

Each person getting on with their lives respecting others..

This is about 

As far as...

not knowing what is going on....being hard to give support...

I have to disagree on that one.,,,

If I found a person laying on the ground...I would not know their story or what was wrong with them...I would not hold back my support though...this is an example of seeing a possible physical injury...

why should it be different reading one of a mind struggling and offering support?  not needing to know their story..

this is how I perceive the forums...my own view again.

We are finding ourselves disagreeing often....for me this is not a problem as long as I am permitted to respond.

Remembering that we can always agree to disagree..

A concept that the majority of people struggle with..

all the best in your ongoing journey with your son...

my journey with my "family member" has stepped up in intensity....I too cannot say too much or expect others to either for the sake of privacy and safety...

take care appleblossom

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[Zoe7]

It is still quite cold and wet here @Owlunar - it is supposed to be this way for another couple of days - possibly clearing up on the weekend. I don't mind the rain - a good excuse to stay inside and rest! I am looking forward to Spring and the weather warming up a little so I can begin taking Toby back to the beach - that is one thing I miss about Winter.

Yes I know those times well - you do what you need to do to get through each day and you put off what you can to help get through. I have had a big week so it is not surprising I am feeling flat myself. My gum and jaw are feeling a lot better - still a little tender but not as sore as it has been - so whatever infection I had is clearing with the antibiotics too it seems. 

Our mountain has a nice covering of snow again but at present it is hard to see as the mountain top is enclosed in a thick, grey cloud - tomorrow is supposed to be colder again so I suspect the mountain will have snow to the lower levels. It is such a beautiful sight when the sky clears and the snow-covered mountain emerges from behind the clouds 

As for the pool - I think I will get one of those small blow-up pools this year for the really hot days - will be able to throw Toby in there to cool off when we can't get to the beach - and I can lay in it too if need be 

[Owlunar]

We had one of those blow-up pools when the kids were really little @Zoe7 and the first time my daughter saw the reflection of the moon in it and backed off - but the next time the moon had gone and it was wonderful watching a toddler experience water like that for the first time - really great to reflect on

The funny thing is about my cat and the moon too - she could see the moon out of my bedroom window and thought this was not the best thing - pulling down the blind made no difference - the cat knew it was out there and gave me no peace until the moon moved of its own accord.

I move the moon for no one

It seems we have both had big weeks this week - I am feeling better since I had home made soup again for lunch and fruit - I haven't had a decent meal since Monday - now and again I have a bit of a fast which I think does no hard if we keep our fluids up and eat healthy snacks. I feel a lot better now and Telstra can wait until next week.

We had a chilly but fine morning but now it has come over all unnecessary again - I like taking a walk and looking for signs of spring - I had started going to the beach last summer but then things changed and time past and winter came - I am looking forward to walking at the beach next summer - winter is hard on so many of us

I'm really glad your jaw is settling down - it's really bad to have an acute toothache - and wisdom teeth too - I wonder where they got that name from - I am about to look that up

All the best Zoe - keep warm and dry with Cat and Toby - Companion Cat is wrapped around the heater in my bedroom - I really don't think winter bothers her much but she does go crook if I turn the little heater off

Back later

Dec